Voters Vote On How They Feel, Not How Things Actually Are

There must be 100 new articles everyday on why the election turned out as it did. Everyone has an opinion. It is always helpful to look for the broadest possible overlay.

A political wise man whispered to me early in my political experience that people vote on how they feel, not on issues. When I was on top of my political game, I worked this angle a lot. I think we saw this in the recent election.

If people voted for their own self interest, the states which receive the most from the federal government and pay in the least would have voted for the party that pledged to do more of this. Instead, they voted for the one that pledged just the opposite. Rural and poor states voted Republican.

What a cross section of people in these states feel is that they are getting a bad deal when they are really getting a good deal in terms of costs and benefits. Their impression of their bad deal is they see themselves waiting in line for something better while others cut in ahead of them. Non white people, women and gays are moving up while lower income white people are not.

The roughly 25% of the public that attends church may see their congregation as a more reliable friend than their government. This even though their return from the government exceeds benefits their church provides.

It is often said people vote with their pocketbooks. This may not be true at all.

26 Responses

  1. Juan Ruiz

    “If people voted for their own self interest, the states which receive the most from the federal government and pay in the least would have voted for the party that pledged to do more of this. ”

    This was the legacy of the ND congressional delegation going back at least to Burdick. A supposed conservative state sending liberal Democrats to DC on the strength of Federal pork coming back.

  2. Jinx

    I am sure my friend wouldn’t mind that I repost his words below.

    Pleonexia is a philosophical concept meaning greed, covetousness, and avarice – an “insatiable desire to have what rightfully belongs to others” and a “ruthless self-seeking and an arrogant assumption that others and things exist for one’s own benefit.”

    Philosopher Thomas Hobbes described it as a concept of natural law in his Leviathan classic on social contract theory:

    “If in this case, at the making of Peace, men require for themselves, that which they would not have to be granted to others, they do contrary to the precedent law, that commands the acknowledgement of natural equality, and therefore also against the law of Nature. The observers of this law, are those we call Modest, and the breakers Arrogant Men. The Greeks call the violation of this law pleonexia; a desire of more than their share.”

    Theologian William Barclay described pleonexia an “accursed love of having” which “will pursue its own interests with complete disregard for the rights of others, and even for the considerations of common humanity” featuring the “grasping at money and goods, regardless of honor and honesty” and an “ambition which tramples on others to gain something which is not properly meant for it and “the unbridled lust which takes its pleasure where it has no right to take”.

    Grand Old Pleonexia is now stalking the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court and the American citizens with its insatiable maw wide open.

    1. Juan Ruiz

      “Grand Old Pleonexia is now stalking the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court and the American citizens with its insatiable maw wide open.”

      Grand Old Pleonexia has been present in DC, state, and local governments from the beginning.

        1. entech

          Sharia (shari’a), Islamic sharia, Islamic law is the religious law governing the members of the Islamic faith. It is derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith. The term sharia comes from the Arabic language term shar??ah, which means a body of moral and religious law derived from religious prophecy, as opposed to human legislation.
          Sharia deals with many topics, including crime, politics, marriage contracts, trade regulations, religious prescriptions, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting. Adherence to sharia has served as one of the distinguishing characteristics of the Muslim faith historically. In its strictest definition, sharia is considered in Islam as the infallible law of God.

          Wikipedia

          First paragraph:
          You spend so much time talking about “the law”, deriving your idea of moral and religious law from your Bible instead of their Koran ??? Only a matter of degree and opportunity.

          Second paragraph:
          Most of these things have direct counterparts in Christian societies where they have had the power to implement them. Only a matter of degree and opportunity.
          In its strictest definition, religious law is considered in Christianity as the infallible law of God
          A slight paraphrase and no real difference. Again consider how far to go given the opportunity, couple of bits of history:
          the murder of Thomas Aikenhead for blasphemy (prsbyterian)
          boiling in oil for supporting Martin Luther (Roman Inquisition)
          hanging quakers in Boston (part of the escape from religious persectuion ???)

          Now on minor points shopkeepers jailed for daring to open on Sunday (Sunday not even the Sabbath).
          Maybe not death for homosexuality like Islam, but driving to suicide is just as bad (maybe more cruel)

          We could go on and on and this is the answer to “Why don’t you just leave us alone?” The ultimate answer to that is that there is no way to say one version of the “laws of God” from any supposed God or another is correct and demanded. If you stop trying to say there are legal requirements from Gods Law and thet we (non-believers) must accept themn and live by them then most of us will leave you alone to keep up you little rituals and beliefs, just keep them to your selves.

          Objectively not silly, justifiably frightened, murder, stealing etc. are common laws without needing your 10 things.

          1. entech

            More than a day to come up with that ?
            Sore I am always sore, just had another by-pass on my leg and it is affecting the arthritis – sometimes more than sore.
            Bitter, not sure why don’t you bite me and find out 🙂

      1. entech

        I have to take part of the blame. It is so much fun seeing where the windmills in his mind take him next. Can’t be much further to go he has already slipped over the edge.
        I really should stop encouraging him.

        1. entech 4:31 I have to take part of the blame. It is so much fun seeing where the windmills in his mind take him next. Can’t be much further to go he has already slipped over the edge.

          You should start a university called, “The School of Eloquent Political Insults.” Our President Elect could use some help.

          1. entech

            I must be getting it wrong that was supposed to be complimentary.
            Probably feeling sore, guilty, sad, bitter, twisted, silly, longwinded and so many other things that prevent me from paying obeisance to Henry and his all knowingness and becoming a convert to Henryism.

      2. Henry

        KStoned:“Henry – get educated for the love of god. You are just silly and paranoid.”

        You will have to be more specific and tell me in what I need to be more edjacated. You are surprisingly short on details despite your supposed level of edjacation.

  3. entech

    Voters Vote On How They Feel, Not How Things Actually Are and the politicians live up to their expectations by telling them what they think they want to hear.

    When more of the worlds wealth is slowly creeping into fewer hands by gradual acquisition we get the incredible situation in America where Trump, who aspires to be one of the few and never does anything unless it is for his own benefit, can convince the American workers he is the man for them ???

    Trump whose electioneering style was to loudly proclaim everything that was wrong with him except that he was blaming it in the opposition. He does however accomplish a very difficult task, he makes Henry look almost honest by comparison.

    1. entech 5:45 Trump bragged he never settles lawsuits. USA Today pointed out he often settles and he did yesterday for $25 million.

      I’m revising an old Texas political insult. My new version is, ALL CAP, NO CATTLE.

      1. entech

        An Australian version. What you would call a ranch in Aus. they would call a cattle station.

        The bigger the hat the smaller the station.

          1. entech

            Is there any truth in the rumor that wearing a baseball cap reduces your IQ by at least 10 points, and wearing it backwards reduces it much further? 🙁

            That is a good story trump it if you can. 🙂

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