Anti Abortionists Don’t Care About These Lives

It’s always been the case that antiabortionists care about fetuses far more than they care about the lives of adults. The reason they focus on fetuses is that there is more political cache there and a good villain. The villain is women. There are several ways to save adult lives but antiabortionists are indifferent about these lives. For most, it would be politically unpopular to speak in favor of saving adult lives.

One I always return to is deaths from car crashes. They take over 30,000 lives a year, almost all preventable. But, since everyone drives a car or truck and thinks someone else will die, neither anti abortionists, Bible thumping politicians or other public figures ever do anything important about it.

Currently, two federal agencies are proposing to put a device on trucks to limit their speed. It is estimated to save over 1,100 lives per year. Other devices would eliminate drunk diving and texting while driving. More driver training, as required in Europe, could be required. You will see no support for these from the right-to-life political arm.

A politician pledging to crack down on highway speed and highway deaths would receive no support from the right-to-life political class. If the right to life political operation support saving adult lives its funding and membership would dry up. The money is in fetuses.

Harassing women walking toward abortion clinics gives great satisfaction to antiabortionists. It would be refreshing to see the same effort put into public safety and saving adult lives.

72 Responses

  1. Wanna Be Sure

    Jon; I believe your connection of anti-abortionists and highway death is a repeated bunch of crap. Both our children live in Fargo. We drive up there often. Sometimes on I-29, and US 75. I never go over the speed limit. I set the cruse on the button, and leave it there, with the exception of; In MN, if approaching a car slightly under the speed limit, we are legally approved to pass (under safe conditions), at a speed 10 mph over the stated limit. So as to prevent convoying, with some fool wanting to pass several cars at one time. It should be noted that being so close to the Dakotas, the ones that pass with the most gusto are young ladies with ND plates. If ever there were a group that one would expect to be pro-abortion, and anti speed, these young speed lovers would be the prime example, yet, they are to the contrary. I have mentioned this observation several times at different opportunities, and the same has been noted by others. They look to be students coming or going to one of the universities in the FM area.
    One must ask all the pro abortionists if they would be willing to drive 30? 40? mph on all the highways, and 10mph in town. Put your money where your mouth is, and start a movement to change the laws. Lead by doing. First with yourself. I would comply, after all it would be the law.

    1. Jinx

      I believe Jon is trying to make the point that anti’s are gung ho about saving a fetus but not after its born, growing and turns into an adult. They want the government in the uterus but not in the lives of the once born from infancy to old age. Death from preventable car crashes are a good metaphor…….why aren’t the anti’s pushing for better rules and regulations for car manufactures as well as state and federal laws to lower the death rate? The anti’s say they value all life but their actions speak much louder than their words.

      1. Wanna Be Sure

        Yes, I know Jon has said as much on numerous occasions, BUT I fail to see the connection between anti abortion and speeding, with the resulting accidents, or pro abortion and speeding with the resulting accidents for that matter. For myself, I would be comfortable with the speed limit at 50 mph on I 29, and US 75. I strongly doubt the most liberal pro abortionist would. Nor would they approve having a locking device on their smart phones while driving. Sometimes you just can’t fix stupid. on a sunny day, In a fog, or on an icy road.

    2. Grandma

      Dear Wanna, nobody, and I do mean nobody, is PRO abortion. Pro options, yes, and that includes abortion, carrying to term, keeping and adoption. I should remind you that when women leave the clinic in Fargo they do so with birth control information so they can come back for health care as needed.

  2. Wanna Be Sure

    PS. There is an exception to the speed limit, and some may not be aware of it. The “limit” as stated is the limit. If the conditions are such that the “limit” is unsafe, such as fog, blizzard, icy roads, etc. one can be charged for careless or reckless driving, even if under the “limit”. Ever been passed by some fool at a high rate of sppeed in a dense fog? I think we all have. For all I know, it could have been a pro-abortionist.

  3. Matt Noah

    Here’s Jon’s first lie. It goes downhill from there. Delusion.

    It’s always been the case that antiabortionists care about fetuses far more than they care about the lives of adults.

    1. entech

      Matt, I know it is not the way to make a point, I ask for exoneration because so many of you and yours do it (this not as bad as trying to excuse your Church of the evil it does by saying others do worse). Any way I would like to point out that you really need to check your grammar, spelling is not so bad, often just a typo anyway, but punctuation can change the whole meaning of a sentence. I recall a man once, he got promoted within his ability as he was a good engineer (one of my superintendents when I was in the navy) but his knowledge of English was abysmal. We used to say he was a complete stranger to the English language, he would write very long sentences and on deciding they were too long he would insert a few commas at more or less equal intervals. Lucky we were all trained in the same engineering field otherwise he would have been incomprehensible. Anyway enough biovating.

      Matt, you need to add some punctuation marks to make clear that you are quoting some one else. As written it reads as if you are speaking for yourself.

      It’s always been the case that antiabortionists care about fetuses far more than they care about the lives of adults.

      This reads exactly as if it were your opinion.

      1. entech

        At the risk of being vulgar almost to the point of blasphemy I think David could get more than his chariot up to high speed and efficiency.

    1. entech

      Actually it was pre-Catholic so the concept of an illegitimate child didn’t come into it, they were married by the time the child was born, one of many wives. As marriage is between one man and one woman you could say all of his marriages and children were illegitimate. Never mind Cain and Abel as an example of difficult to understand decision by the fair and just God, why was the child killed when David himself was guilty of two crimes adultery and killing the husband of the adulteress.
      Actually David was favourite of God and his son became a highly revered king in his wake. Solomon followed in his fathers footsteps when it came to the many wives and mistresses thing. Seems you can do anything if you one of Gods Favourites.

  4. The Julius Project

    Car accidents are just that…accidents. Abortion is murder – Intentional…premeditated…murder!

    1. Julius 9:50 Abortion is considered to be murder only by anti abortionists. Neither women who have abortions nor doctors who do them are charged with breaking the law. Sometimes drivers are charged with murder. I am not saying all fatalities in car crashes are murders. I am saying they are nearly all preventable. We could prevent them if we cared about adult human life. Since we don’t, the laws that lead to 30,000 deaths a year remain and efforts like the one to limit truck speeds have little or no support.

    2. Grandma

      Many localities and states are doing away with the term “accidents” because the crashes involved are so often the result of drinking or distracted driving.

  5. Matt Noah

    More proof that Jon is (sarcasm tag on) correct (sarcasm tag off). When Jon was mayor of Fargo the 3 hospitals in the FM area were St. Luke’s, St. John’s and St. Ansgar’s (Moorhead). I don’t recall a hospital named after an atheist. It certainly seems like those darn Catholics were out in front of caring for everyone. In fact, Saint Luke is the patron saint of physicians. But I digress. I hope facts aren’t getting in the way of Jon’s arguments (ahem, lies).

  6. Matt Noah

    Jon wants to generate traffic today so he is pulling out another abortion blog. I think he is jealous of Rob Port’s success at getting hundreds of posts on his sayanythingblog.

    1. Matt 9:56 Jon wants to generate traffic today so he is pulling out another abortion blog.

      The idea for this blog came from a story on the front page of the paper here about the gizmo for trucks that would limit their top speed. I’ve always been interested in the relationship between safety/life and peoples’ love affair with fast driving. When I got involved with the debate over abortion I found the disinterest in adult lives all the more perplexing.

      I wrote a letter to Governor Art Link in early 1970’s urging him to get behind the national speed limit of 55. He was gracious but not interested. When later I became Mayor and got to know him well I learned he and Grace liked to put pedal to the metal.

      1. Matt Noah

        The ideas for your blog come from anything that you can miraculously link to abortion. The story could be about gardening and you would link it to abortion. Shameless.

        1. Matt 10:42 The ideas for your blog come from anything that you can miraculously link to abortion.

          Sometimes, nothing hurts more than the truth. The truth is you do not value the lives of humans very much. They are expendable. It this were not so you would spend some of you energy advocating to save adult lives. You do not.

          In the world of the Fetus Cult only the fetus has value. The fetus consumes you.

          1. Matt Noah

            You are delusional at best, a complete pathological liar at worst. Again, when you were mayor the 3 hospitals in the area were founded and run by Christians. There are not “atheists united for the homeless” in the Fargo area, only “Churches United for the Homeless”. The biggest thing atheists have going is that group in Madison, WI that threatens to sue every government agency that has a prayer, a statue or a religious memorial on government property. And that is not a good thing ‘to have going’ for you. Shameless.

        1. entech

          One of the few times you have said something that appears to have some thought behind it. There would need to be some kind of override provision for emergency use. I do think there should also be someway of recording when, how often and for how long it was used.
          Having said that I must ask myself whether the thought was for the actual safety issues or merely a way of attacking Jon.

        2. Matt 11:21 What happens when one of those “smart” trucks have to speed up to avoid an accident.

          In the 70’s, the 55 mph period, I had a hobby business that dealt a lot with truckers. Some trucking companies had governors on their over the road trucks to limit speed. Maybe some still do. The dispatchers I talked said it did not affect schedules that month and saved a lot of tire wear and fuel costs. I never heard it reduced safety.

          1. Matt Noah

            We could do away with cars, trucks, buses and anything else that would use a motor to ride on a road. Then there would be no deaths. Happy? No. You just have a different level of speed which accommodates your acceptable death ratio. And if a husband speeds his expectant wife to the hospital for the delivery of her baby, how many people would die in the accident if the car had an accident with just the husband and wife inside; just the people in the car? If the answer you provide is “2”, then that is all we need to know about Jon Lindgren.

          2. Matt 10:56 We could do away with cars, trucks, buses and anything else that would use a motor to ride on a road. Then there would be no deaths.

            That is absurd. We do not need to do away with cars, etc., to eliminate deaths from crashes. We merely need a moral commitment that values adult lives. It would require a higher moral commitment than we now have. I don’t anticipate improvement in the level of your moral commitment.

      2. Juan Ruiz

        The 55-mph limit was yet another example of Federal Govt overreach. No problem for the Beltway crowd, but impossible for the big western states.

        1. Jaun 6:14 No problem for the Beltway crowd, but impossible for the big western states.

          “Impossible?” It was not impossible, it was unpopular. It was quite successful actually. Traffic deaths dropped dramatically, petroleum use dropped, tire makers got into financial trouble because tires lasted so long… The only thing that did not work was its politics. That is because, when you get right down to it, a human life in the U. S. is considered expendable. To the Fetus Cult, the fetus is much more valuable.

          1. Juan Ruiz

            55 on I 94 across Montana or I 40 across New Mexico was ridiculous. You wanted it on the NJ Turnpike, fine.

  7. Jinx

    I can hardly wait to read what Entech has to say, the Fetal Worship Cult is up to the same old tired “ill-ogic” surrounding a woman’s choice again…….

  8. entech

    It has all been said so many times and distorted by usual deniers, I sometimes think that stating your case is just enabling them to shout and scream their lies.
    I am surprised no one has come out about the evil woman in your 9:19 pm, expecting life saving medical treatment for a contraceptive device. We all know that all forms of contraception are abortion morally at least and probably physically.

  9. Juan Ruiz

    “Other devices would eliminate drunk diving”

    Some states already mandate a breathalyzer interlock device after the first DUI.

  10. Henry

    Jon, you are equating what is considered an acceptable risk of traffic speed that may cause some loss to a pre-meditated action that will cause loss. Apples and oranges.

    1. Henry 9:41 Jon, you are equating what is considered an acceptable risk of traffic speed that may cause some loss to a pre-meditated action that will cause loss. Apples and oranges.

      Good example of using a self-made technicality to appease one’s guilt. “Acceptable level of risk” is predicting deaths. Eliminating the risk is saving lives. We don’t do this in the U. S. when it comes to deaths in car crashes because going fast is more important than the deaths that result.

      1. Henry

        That is not a “self-made” technicality. It is a fact. It really isn’t about me as you have tried to make it.

        Society sets the acceptable risk of traffic speeds with respect to loss of life, not me, nor you. Abortion in terms of loss of life isn’t a risk. It is simply a loss through a premeditated act, not through an accident. Apples and oranges.

        A doctor that taught probabilities should know and recognize this.

        1. entech

          Henry, Henry everything is about you ❗ if you don’t agree it is wrong, or in reverse, if it doesn’t agree with you it is wrong. Either way it is about you (in your tiny mind).

        2. Henry 10:23 Society sets the acceptable risk of traffic speeds with respect to loss of life, not me, nor you. Abortion in terms of loss of life isn’t a risk. It is simply a loss through a premeditated act, not through an accident. Apples and oranges.

          I agree society has set an “acceptable risk” of death from traffic speeds, drunk driving, texting and all the other ways human lives could be saved. I’ve said this myself countless times in pointing to the causal attitude toward loss of life in our society.

          You, however, have made personal moral choice consistent with the Fetus Cult movement. Your refer to a few cells killed in an abortion as a “loss”. It is within you realm of influence to protest loss of adult humans, but you do not do this. Instead, you place more value on a tiny clump of cells. This is a country where you are free to value the clump of cells more than the adult humans. This freedom allows me to also reach the conclusion it is absurd to value the clump of cells more than the adult human.

          1. Henry

            Jon: ” This is a country where you are free to value the clump of cells more than the adult humans.”

            And sure enough. You get into the eugenics of determining who is a worthy human being to live and who isn’t. With the acceptable risk in traffic speeds, both the “clump of cells” and the “adult human” carry approximately the same risk of loss. Rather than placing this loss in the hands of probability, you are hand picking who the winners and losers are. Your solution has much resemblance to the Final Solution.

          2. Henry 2:01 You get into the eugenics of determining who is a worthy human being to live and who isn’t.
            The clump of cells the size of a walnut is not a human being. It may be your opinion it is, but there is no consensus or laws that declare it to be so.

            As to eugenics and the speed limit, you are implying those killed by careless motorists are of some particular class or race. What group might that be?

          3. Henry

            1. Consensus is not a standard for law. You require consensus of your opponent to further your political cause, in an effort to set an insurmountable bar. If consensus is a requirement, then why don’t you get a consensus in order to abort? Should work both ways if consensus is a requirement. Your beloved 1973 “right to privacy” ruling was not consensus from the court whose most recent ruling on African-American slavery affirmed said slavery.
            2. As to eugenics and the speed limit, you are comingling them. The issues are separate, apples and oranges. Eugenics/abortion is premeditated. Speed limit deaths are acceptable risk and by chance. Apples and oranges.
            3. Those killed by careless motorists are by chance, not of a particular class or race, the victims equally distributed.

        3. Henry 10:23 Society sets the acceptable risk of traffic speeds with respect to loss of life, not me, nor you. Abortion in terms of loss of life isn’t a risk. It is simply a loss through a premeditated act, not through an accident. Apples and oranges.

          I agree society has set an “acceptable risk” of death from traffic speeds, drunk driving, texting and all the other ways human lives could be saved. I’ve said this myself countless times in pointing to the causal attitude toward loss of life in our society.

          You, however, have made personal moral choice consistent with the Fetus Cult movement. Your refer to a few cells killed in an abortion as a “loss”. It is within you realm of influence to protest loss of adult humans, but you do not do this. Instead, you place more value on a tiny clump of cells. This is a country where you are free to value the clump of cells more than the adult humans. This freedom allows me to also reach the conclusion it is absurd to value the clump of cells more than the adult human.

    1. Matt 12:54 Those darn Christians served so many “born” people you’d think they’d lost their minds. Or perhaps Jon is delusional.

      The Christians who started hospitals did not save the 30,000 plus people who died in car crashes last year or will die this year and next year. Those lives could only be saved by resolve to save them. The Fetus Cult does not have this resolve. As revealed in you posts, it has no interest whatsoever.

        1. Henry

          I am skeptical of this story which promotes the supposed horrors incurred at prolife hospitals. Only one witness alleging a story contrary to hospital policy. This smells like that Irish hospital story where the hospital supposedly did some atrocious things to this pregnant dentist that was a patient. As the official report indicated, the problem was with the general level of care, nothing to do with lack of abortion. That embellishment by the probort lobby and their sycophants in the liberal media is much similar to how this story smells.

          1. entech

            I wrote a long post about how I am skeptical about almost everything you cite. It got lost when my connection dropped out. There must be a God, he prevented me enabling you in one of your usual diatribes.

  11. Matt Noah

    You do understand how left of left of left you’ve become by using the crazy term “Fetus Cult Movement”.

    1. Matt 1:43 You do understand how left of left of left you’ve become by using the crazy term “Fetus Cult Movement”.

      When one values the clump of cells the size of a walnut over the life of the mother the term fits. It has nothing to do with politics, just values.

      1. Matt Noah

        You were once the size of a walnut and even smaller. So was Jinx, entech and wBS. Even Henry, Julius and I were that size.

        The difference is that some of you are biology-deniers. You don’t accept basic science.

        Tell me, is a baby a human being 5 minutes before it is delivered in the hospital? And is a baby a human being 5 minutes before it is about to be aborted at 8.9 months gestation?

        1. Grandma

          And……. Considering the Supreme Court decision, which said states could not limit first trimester abortions, could put limits on second term abortions, and could drastically limit third trimester abortions… How many abortions are performed at 8.9 months?

          1. Matt Noah

            It’s a simple question. Where does Jon stand? Where do you stand? You can look up statistics on 3rd trimester abortions so do it. That is just ‘changing the subject’ as we say.

        2. Wanna Be Sure

          @ 5:22; Again with the “wBS”. So small and petty. Again not a typo as our little matt lied earlier. In Catholic jargon, a “good confession” means honestly confessing anything done or thought which can be remembered. Matt hasn’t forgotten the typo lie, as he is still using it. If matt does a “good confession” he surely must remember the lie. A lie must not be a sin in the Catholic Church. (see bearing false witness, — one of the big ten). If he lies on this, one must ask; would he lie about matters that may benefit him financially. Back to the confessional for a “good confession”. Something held back in confession is supposed to prevent receiving the Sacrament of the Alter.

        3. entech

          Matt about this walnut size thing. It is true that we were all this size and have grown a lot since. At the same time we all had a brain the size of a walnut the size of the brain mainly increased, you seem to be one of the exceptions.

      2. Matt Noah

        BTW, both mother and child are equally valued. You know that if you’ve studied any Christian doctrine. When the life of the mother is not in mortal danger, the deliberate killing of the child is contrary to one of the Ten Commandments. You can hysterically claim something else but it just shows your willful ignorance of what Christians, especially Catholics, stand for. Ignorance is the wrong word. You intentionally lie.

    1. entech

      Thanks for the new word. I have sometimes been called long winded and/or verbose but I will adopt that one (even though it is an Americanism and not real English :;): )

      1. Jinx

        Known Bloviators are Donald Trump, green worm, occasionally my husband, etc. but never you Entech. I can’t think of another word or words as succinct and to the point as bloviate when describing some people, especially Trump and green worm.

  12. Schurkey

    There are so many errors in logic and errors in human behavior in Jon Lindgren’s assumptions that I hardly know where to start.

    Here’s a few that jump out at me:

    1. The deservedly-hated National Mandated Speed Limit (NMSL, or more commonly called “55”) was a knee-jerk political reaction to a supposed and feared (but proven-false) lack of resources (specifically petroleum) which was itself a political maneuver. When it was proven that lowering the speed limit has approximately the same effect as if the entire national fleet of vehicles had simply maintained proper tire pressure, ONLY THEN did the focus shift to “safety” from “conservation of fuel”. In short, it was political bullshit when new, and when the new wore off, it was a double-heaping-helping of the well-worn “Speed Kills” propaganda that has time after time been proven false–but which keeps getting Tax Funding for yet another round of propaganda telling us “Speed Kills”.

    2. After 21 hateful years of the “55 mph” speed limit, a small bit of sanity leaked out of Wisconsin. The organization now known as the National Motorists Association ( http://www.motorists.org ) had been advocating for motorists rights–noting that driver’s licenses and people eligible to vote were so closely related that 49 our of 50 states allowed people to register to vote at their local Department of Motor Vehicles or whatever served that function in their state. The only state that didn’t promote voter registration at the DMV was–and is–North Dakota, and only because ND does not HAVE voter registration. The NMA rightly concluded that roads and highways do not belong to the Government, they belong to We The People. Therefore the deliberate under-posting of speed limits was a violation of civil rights and an abuse of the so-called “Justice System”, albeit one that very few people in power cared about. Nevertheless, enough people (primarily Republicans, fitting since it was Nixon that foisted the travesty upon us to begin with) cared to finally force the progressive raising of speed limits from the utterly ridiculous and reprehensible “55” to 65 and then 70 (Minnesota), 75 (ND) and up to 85 (Texas). Guess What! Highway deaths per miles traveled actually WENT DOWN with the increase in speed limits. Possible reasons: People fell asleep at 55, they didn’t fall asleep at 75. People paid too much attention to Law Enforcement Officers (and vehicles) and not enough attention to WHERE THEY WERE GOING. In short, while physics decries the energy levels of bodies in motion at higher velocities; here in the real world higher speeds were PROVEN SAFER, year after year after year.

    3. Traffic engineers maintain that the smooth flow of traffic is among the most important indicators of “safe” traffic. Anything that smooths the flow of traffic tends to reduce collisions. What does Jon–and the boneheads he cites–promote? Using speed-governed trucks as rolling roadblocks, inducing exactly the opposite of “smooth traffic flow”.

    4. The “bible” of American traffic engineering knowledge (somewhat polluted by political maneuvering for the purpose of “revenue generation” by “sticking it to the Motorist”) is the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) The current version is hundreds of pages long, but can be downloaded for free. ( http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno_2009r1r2.htm ) The MUTCD is both Federal regulation, and has been accepted in all states as part of their State regulations. Please note that BEST PRACTICE for speed limits is to 1) perform a speed survey of free-flowing traffic, then 2) post the speed limit at the nearest 5 miles per hour that accommodates the slowest 85% of that free-flowing traffic. This is called the “85th Percentile” speed limit. It’s also known that when speed limits are set properly, some faster-moving traffic will slow down to comply with a REASONABLE speed limit. Know also that there is not one mile of roadway in North Dakota where the speed limit is deliberately set at the “best practice” 85th Percentile. North Dakota motorists apparently are not deserving of the safest-possible roads. We are treated as sheep to be milked for the benefit of the “Justice System” and the Insurance Industry. Every speeding ticket in money in their pockets, either by fines or by insurance premium surcharges. I expect the same, or similar for Minnesota.

    Unreasonably low speed limits have been proven to reduce safety. Using rolling roadblocks to disrupt traffic flow is proven to reduce safety. Using politicians instead of traffic engineers to set speed limits has been proven to reduce safety. Therefore, only the ignorant, the mentally-defective, the Insurance Industry, and Politicians could possibly be in favor of irresponsible speed-limiting of some or all of the vehicles on the roadway.

    Welcome to America, where political control-freaks and Industry bullies will sacrifice human lives to profit the Government/Corporate Collusion.

    1. Schurkey 1:57 Thanks for taking the time to elaborate on your views about speed on highways.

      I am, and have been for years, familiar with all the arguments you present. In fact, I got into politics largely because of my dislike for the marriage of the highway bureaucracy and oil/vehicle manufacture lobby that supports it. They have ruined cities for decades. You praise that married couple when it suits your purposes and rail against it when it does not.

      Your conclusion that deaths went down when speeds went up leaves out huge other changes–the quality and price of cars and roads, for example.

      All arguments about speed can be summarized with two points, both are about the science of physics: 1.) The wind resistance against any moving object goes up by multiples as speed increases. Energy is saved by going slower. 2.) If you want to know which is safer, a crash at a high speed versus a crash as a lower speed, ask a crash dummy.

      One can argue until blue in the face and these two facts remain unchanged.

      1. Schurkey

        Physics does NOT describe the whole of traffic safety; it leaves out the “human element” where too-slow speeds increase the number of collisions due to the effect of boredom and apathy and driver response to over-regulation. If physics was the only factor in the game, traffic deaths per mile would have gone up with the higher speed limits, and they did not.

        Your theory does not correlate with reality.

        1. Schurkey 10:27 it leaves out the “human element” where too-slow speeds increase the number of collisions due to the effect of boredom and apathy and driver response to over-regulation.

          I looked up “causes of traffic deaths.” The first one that came up listed the top three. None of yours is listed there. Certainly it is not “driver over regulation.

          http://www.drivers.com/article/1173

          1. Schurkey

            Looked at the web site you linked to. Pretty lame.

            #3 references MADD. MADD has lost all credibility. They’re too focused in their quest to shut-down the alcoholic beverage industry in America. They’re as important as the 18th Amendment, and less reliable–but more vocal. The founder of MADD quit the group because they were shrieking too loudly. If you look up “Safety Nazi” in the dictionary, MADD is one of the poster children.

            #2 references the US DOT. These are the people who tried to justify “55” back when they thought they could get by with it. They’re not to be trusted, any more than the CIA or the FTC or any of the other “Three Letter Agencies” that Congress has inflicted on the American Public. I’m only surprised that the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety wasn’t cited. The IIHS is among the worst of the industry mouthpieces in terms of distortion and outright lies to achieve “social engineering” via so-called “scientific studies”.

            #1 doesn’t cite…anybody. Ironically, that’s exactly what I meant by calling motorists “over-regulated”. In this context, the “55” speed limit had drivers looking everywhere for “County Mounties”, and “Local Yokels”, spending too many mental processor cycles avoiding getting trapped by Law Enforcement, and too little watching the road for more immediate hazards. It simply doesn’t make sense to drive a politically-motivated Pure Bullshit speed limit when everyone including the police knew that higher speed limits made more sense, but generated less income.

          2. Schurkey 1:01 It simply doesn’t make sense to drive a politically-motivated Pure Bullshit speed limit when everyone including the police knew that higher speed limits made more sense, but generated less income

            More revenue or less is crux of the matter. Slower speeds generate less fuel tax revenue. That means less pay and fewer jobs in the State and Federal Highway Departments. It also means lower gasoline, vehicle sales and road construction. These industries are relentless campaigners for higher speed limits because of the money they make from it. The most reliable evidence of fuel, tire and deaths came shortly after the 55 mph data came in. It was a short enough time for few other variables to change.

            Personally, I’m not interested in whether the highways are controlled “by the people”, whatever that means, or by “big government”. I’d just like to stay alive and wish others would also want that for themselves and their loved ones.

            Over the last 20 years, the entire state of North Dakota has been killed statistically. The total is equal to the entire metropolitan area where I now live. The same number will be killed in the next 20 years. It seems like that should interest “right to life” people but they are not really interested in “right to life.”

  13. Arnold Althoff

    It surprises me that a man of your education spends his time thinking of ways to spread hatred daily. That enforces my feelings about our educational system. We paid you to become like you. ICK!

    1. Arnold 7:42 Thank you for reading my blog and commenting. Your comments are always welcome.

      It surprises me that a man of your education spends his time thinking of ways to spread hatred daily.

      I am baffled as to where your impression comes from I have hatred toward your faith or any other faith. Certainly, I dislike hypocrisy and dishonesty. I find that in the branch of the faith that tries to stop all abortions but has no interest in pointless deaths of adults. I dislike the practice of picking out people who are different and demonizing them. This is absolutely present in the gay, trans and other religions. Just a few minutes ago I read in our local paper where I now live of a group of right wing Christian high school students setting up meetings in school under the guise of being self help secular gatherings. At the meetings the students pounced on Mormons and demonized them.

      On the other hand I applaud a local UCC pastor’s letter to the editor today. He criticizes other local churches who are going to court over trans rest room use in churches. He says these churches are trying to keep their favorite “persecution narrative” alive.
      Their are a dozen blogs in Area Voices under the heading of religion. Mine is the only one who questions the premises of religion. There should be one.

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