God Does Not Want A Woman To Be President

You knew it was out there. But when would the anti women angle several religions lay claim to be put into play? Now it is here. A group of conservative Jewish and Christian clergy has sounded the alarm that God’s wrath may come upon the nation that defies the rules.

I have thought for a long time it would be great to have some kind of measurement that would put a number on how far prominent religions get off kilter from their society before they right themselves. Parts of the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths are now far out of alignment with their respective societies. I don’t know when they will right themselves.

In these branches female clergy are prohibited. To them, it stands to reason if women cannot do the ordinary work of preaching and tending to the flock they could not possibly hold elected offices. In my opinion, it is OK to ridicule religions hold ridiculous beliefs.

A good argument can be made this no-woman-should-be-President represents only a part of all the religions where it is found. That all religious people are painted with this brush highlights the problem of identifying with any religion. They are grounded in ancient myth. If you buy some of those myths it is hard to claim others who buy into different myths are wrong.

One of the many good things about candidate Hillary is that anti women factions in our society cannot hide in the weeds.

21 Responses

  1. Big Sur

    And how will the haters respond … the sailors on Noah’s Snark …?

    How can any true Christian, or Jew, or Muslim , disagree with your point?

    Good for you!

    1. Jinx

      I am sure they will beat this dead horse again, as they have done before. They are so predictable!!

    2. Henry

      BS: “How can any true Christian, or Jew, or Muslim , disagree with your point?”

      BS apparently is the self-appointed atheist arbiter of who a true Christian, Jew, or Moslem is or not. Unfortunately, BS appears to have been radicalized (as have many other liberals) over the span of many years. I do not expect much to change. America will have to be made great again without their help.

  2. Juan Ruiz

    ” A group of conservative Jewish ”

    You have to be careful with conservative vs. Conservative Jews. The latter are a specific group, characterized roughly by viewing the Law as not-fixed and binding. They do indeed ordain women as rabbis.

      1. Juan Ruiz

        This is an example of labels being problematic. Judaism is not monolithic; it went through enormous changes over the millennia. A simplification would be:

        Atheist

        Reform-the Law is not-fixed and not binding.

        Conservative-the Law is not-fixed and binding.

        Orthodox-the Law is fixed and binding.

        The Orthodox are then divided further into the Hasidim (Ultra-Orthodox). They are recognized by their distinctive clothing (black suits, hats, long hair, side curls). Although even they are divided into different schools of thought (Satmars, Lubovovitchers…). It is this segment which has particular laws for women.

        1. entech

          Get a woman in government ??? – there are occasions when you can’t even get a woman in a plane seat. Religious freedom is one thing and a man should not be forced to sit next to a woman to whom he is not related. But the resolution is up to him and no one should be forced to change seats for their convenience, if there is no seat they find suitable – simply get a different flight.

          I remember a few years ago getting ready to board a flight in Philadelphia and seeing a prominent notice that all passengers were to be checked for weapons and no weapons would be allowed on board, I thought this was admirable. There was an additional note to the effect that according to blah, blah, blah passengers could refuse to be searched, also admirable. Of course if you exercised your right to be searched the airline would exercised its right to refuse to carry you. Passengers have the right to privacy, passengers have the right to safety.

  3. Mark

    your pure hate for those who have different beliefs than you is obvious….and disturbing. get help.

    1. Mark 8:47 your pure hate for those who have different beliefs than you is obvious….and disturbing. get help

      Many times since I started this blog people have said there is something wrong with me mentally. I always enjoy pointing out the bigger mental problem may rest with people who hate this blog but read it anyway. All the best.

    2. Jinx

      I will discuss anything with most people here, I don’t take a small minority of your seriously enough to bother discussing anything with you. Lighten up here and if you can’t, remember this blog is written by an agnostic man and if you don’t like it, find another blog.

    3. entech

      As regulars know I am a foreigner, English born and schooled so English is my native tongue. I have frequent difficulties with the word “hate” as it is frequently used against Jon and other non-believers. What is the relationship between disagreement and stating contrary views and the assertion that this is actually “hate”, it always seems to me that it is the converse that is actually the case the true believer seems to find any one that does not agree to be total anathema, if I may borrow a word with religious overtones.

      1. Juan Ruiz

        I recall C. S. Lewis’s exercise in apologetics titled “Mere Christianity,” where he recounted that as a college student he was an atheist who “hated God.” Which leads one to the obvious question: Why hate something you don’t believe exists? I know my absolute antipathy toward invisible pink unicorns was tempered when I applied this question.

        1. Wanna Be Sure

          Juan; Re. C. S. Lewis’s “Mere Christianity”, where he recounted that as a college student he was an atheist who “hated God”: I don’t doubt he said that, however I rather doubt it was said in a void. I suspect there was material leading up to it, and afterwards. His style is more thoughtful and explanative. But of course, I could be wrong. Could you provide which “book”, subject heading and chapter which contains his quote for the sake of context? Thanks.

          1. Wanna Be Sure

            Nope, not there. “Mere Christianity” Macmillan Pub. Co. c 1943, 1945, 1952. Paperback edition 1960. No chapters, but BOOKS one through four. Starting book one: “Right and wrong as a clue to the meaning of the universe”. @ page 17. “The law of human nature”
            There is somewhat of a parallel in book two page 45; “The rival conceptions of God”; “My argument against God, [when I was an atheist] was that when the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What I was comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? Page 45, and continuing to end of “chapter”. If that’s your source, it is a far cry in context from what you implied.

      2. entech: Perhaps if Jon shared his agnostic viewpoints on their own merit rather than pointing out the deficiencies of “believers” it would generate more positive discussion. Stating all “believers” are anti-women is an assumption and incorrect.

        1. mark 8:19 Stating all “believers” are anti-women is an assumption and incorrect.

          I’m afraid it is you who is incorrect. I was careful in the blog to point out only parts of the various religions are anti women.

        2. entech

          Interesting that most believers take everything as being personal, Jon and most of us, most of the time, actually talk about the perceived deficiencies of the beliefs themselves. Who stated and when was it said that “all believers are anti women”? Jon often talks about going to a church attended by members of his family that has female preachers and other leaders.
          The merits or lack of them of an agnostic viewpoint can only be seen when compared to believers viewpoints and their source on the same subjects or topics.

          Homosexuality is a topic that comes up a lot – from an agnostic view it is just another aspect of the diversity to be found in the human race, from a believers view it is a rejection of the rules of God. This is very much an oversimplification there are many non-believers that are are opposed to homosexuality for different reasons and many believers that take the view of it being part of the diversity mentioned, there are actually many believers that are themselves homosexual.

          1. entech 11:39 Homosexuality is a topic that comes up a lot – from an agnostic view it is just another aspect of the diversity to be found in the human race, from a believers view it is a rejection of the rules of God

            Excellent summary of the thousands of posts we have had here about homosexuality.

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